Hi thrown away, Actually I don't think you can outdo me here with references, but I don't have time to write you an essay at the moment. The types of studies you refer to generally have these features: (1) short time follow up (2) large loss to follow up (3) high risk of bias (4) no control untreated group (5) reliance on subjective assessment of patient rather than assessing how well they are coping with life (6) no consideration of honeymoon period for getting what you desired so earnestly, and the mood-boosting effect of testosterone. However, that was referring to attempts at clinical studies. A lot of the studies are based on useless anonymous surveys responded to by adolescent activists wanting to paint transgenderism in a rosy light. These studies are worthless because of poor methodology. They are generally done by activist doctors wanting to support what they are doing (like the infamous Jack Turban). I will instead rely on the systematic reviews of the evidence from Sweden and the UK (also Finland) that found there was no clear evidence of benefit, and certainly and absolutely no long term evidence for the safety of cross sex hormones. In fact we know already some of the health risks.
The supposed 'consensus' of the medical community that you refer to is not a consensus. It is merely what medicine generally does - there are supposed experts in a field, and people trust them. Doctors can't learn about all fields, and so they trust 'experts' to have properly assessed the literature and the evidence. Sadly, with gender 'medicine' they are being led astray by activist ideologue doctors. The AAP, the endocrine society, who support gender affirming 'care' have not done systematic reviews, they just have policies driven by a few activists who get themselves in positions of power. (Can't wait for the court case where the AAP is a defendent against a detransitioner). The countries where they have done reviews KNOW that the evidence is not there. There was a paper in the NEJM (Chen 2023) that was trying very hard to prove that treatment was helpful. Their methodology has been harshly criticised, as they did not report all the parameters that they pre-registered as collecting. However, whilst trying to present transition in a rosy light, 2 out of 337 participants in that study committed suicide within one year of commencing hormone treatment. Appreciate there is no control group, but maybe not so life-saving?
And you can not change sex. You can change your clothes, you can cut off body parts and stitch rather sad ones on, you can mess up your metabolism with the wrong hormones, but that is not changing sex. A Swedish study found that born male transsexuals maintain male pattern criminality long after their supposed transition. You can change outward appearance, but you cannot change the developmental program. And no, we are not more than our DNA and our body parts. That is what we actually are, other than the experiences which have shaped our brain development. Anything else is just mysticism or a religious belief in some kind of soul.. You are welcome to believe that, but there is no evidence for it.
You are such a strong writer, i love what you said: "No, we are not more than our DNA and our body parts. That is what we actually are, other than the experiences which have shaped our brain development. Anything else is just mysticism or a religious belief in some kind of soul.. You are welcome to believe that, but there is no evidence for it."
This is what we should be teaching kids in science and health classes. I actually say in my son's 9th grade Health class last year to observe the "gender identity" lesson because I wanted to find out what my daughter was taught a few years earlier when she came out as trans at this same junior high school. I was shocked to see the teacher shows slides of medically transitioned women including one "pregnant trans man" with missing breasts, top surgery scars, pregnant, and a scrubby beard. My kids also learned there were 13 possible genders and we are all on a "gender spectrum."
Correlation is not causation. It is unsurprising that people who are classified as "transgender" through self-selection have brains from people who are not "transgender". That does not mean that the brain itself is a "male" brain or "female" brain anymore than a person being quite tall makes them a male.
Looks like you are using AI to write these answers. Trying to maintain a very reasonable sounding tone, whilst spouting garbage. Just because you can find some stuff published does not mean it is real. Just because you can keep coming up with AI-generated mini-essays to try and obfuscate your way through this argument does not mean that you win. I have a full-time job, and it precludes spending all my time in rebutting the garbage you keep posting.
"one cannot attribute crimes to biological sex". Consistently 98-99% of sexual assault crimes are MALE. Violent crimes are mostly MALE. Deny this and you deny reality.
"Mortality data is complex with many factors. 2 suicides of 337 shows 98% still living." Dear me, this is not a particularly good recommendation, given that we do not expect young people to normally die at this rate.
"Lives at risk" - the rate of suicide is not actually higher for transgender id people than for other people with a similar range of mental health problems. And there is no proof that medicalised gender transition decreases the risk. Anecdotally I see detransitioners who are suicidal because of their distress at what they have done to their bodies. If this medicalisation of gender identity was so life-saving, where were all the dead kids 20 years ago, who were so distressed about being in the wrong body? They didn't exist, because they had not been subjected to queer theory propaganda telling them they were born in the wrong body.
There is a somewhat elevated suicide rate, but it is no higher than the rate seen in those with similar mental health complaints of depression and anxiety, that the trans-ID people also have. The rate is still low overall - about 4-5 times the general population. The most heinously evil thing that the transgender lobby does is actually promote suicidal ideation in transgender youth. They are told constantly that trans people have an extreme suicide risk. And it is a lie. There are good stats to prove it including a paper in the last month from Finland in BMJ Mental Health. The level of suicide is still low, nothing like the scary figures for 'suicidal ideation' of 50 or 80%. And there is absolutely no data to show that medical transition reduces suicide. I know because I have read the literature on this. Results of online surveys asking people how suicidal they feel are just garbage and unrelated to actual suicide rates.
The rest of your blurb above, I can largely debunk and could provide references, but honestly, I have better things to do now. You are not accurately reporting the data on reasons for detransition at all. There are several good papers on that. Goodbye.
> While limitations absolutely exist and standards should continue improving, claims that no evidence supports benefits of transition or that it universally causes harm are factually incorrect based on current data.
Doesn't say good things about your "data" now does it.
Hi thrown away, Actually I don't think you can outdo me here with references, but I don't have time to write you an essay at the moment. The types of studies you refer to generally have these features: (1) short time follow up (2) large loss to follow up (3) high risk of bias (4) no control untreated group (5) reliance on subjective assessment of patient rather than assessing how well they are coping with life (6) no consideration of honeymoon period for getting what you desired so earnestly, and the mood-boosting effect of testosterone. However, that was referring to attempts at clinical studies. A lot of the studies are based on useless anonymous surveys responded to by adolescent activists wanting to paint transgenderism in a rosy light. These studies are worthless because of poor methodology. They are generally done by activist doctors wanting to support what they are doing (like the infamous Jack Turban). I will instead rely on the systematic reviews of the evidence from Sweden and the UK (also Finland) that found there was no clear evidence of benefit, and certainly and absolutely no long term evidence for the safety of cross sex hormones. In fact we know already some of the health risks.
The supposed 'consensus' of the medical community that you refer to is not a consensus. It is merely what medicine generally does - there are supposed experts in a field, and people trust them. Doctors can't learn about all fields, and so they trust 'experts' to have properly assessed the literature and the evidence. Sadly, with gender 'medicine' they are being led astray by activist ideologue doctors. The AAP, the endocrine society, who support gender affirming 'care' have not done systematic reviews, they just have policies driven by a few activists who get themselves in positions of power. (Can't wait for the court case where the AAP is a defendent against a detransitioner). The countries where they have done reviews KNOW that the evidence is not there. There was a paper in the NEJM (Chen 2023) that was trying very hard to prove that treatment was helpful. Their methodology has been harshly criticised, as they did not report all the parameters that they pre-registered as collecting. However, whilst trying to present transition in a rosy light, 2 out of 337 participants in that study committed suicide within one year of commencing hormone treatment. Appreciate there is no control group, but maybe not so life-saving?
And you can not change sex. You can change your clothes, you can cut off body parts and stitch rather sad ones on, you can mess up your metabolism with the wrong hormones, but that is not changing sex. A Swedish study found that born male transsexuals maintain male pattern criminality long after their supposed transition. You can change outward appearance, but you cannot change the developmental program. And no, we are not more than our DNA and our body parts. That is what we actually are, other than the experiences which have shaped our brain development. Anything else is just mysticism or a religious belief in some kind of soul.. You are welcome to believe that, but there is no evidence for it.
You are such a strong writer, i love what you said: "No, we are not more than our DNA and our body parts. That is what we actually are, other than the experiences which have shaped our brain development. Anything else is just mysticism or a religious belief in some kind of soul.. You are welcome to believe that, but there is no evidence for it."
This is what we should be teaching kids in science and health classes. I actually say in my son's 9th grade Health class last year to observe the "gender identity" lesson because I wanted to find out what my daughter was taught a few years earlier when she came out as trans at this same junior high school. I was shocked to see the teacher shows slides of medically transitioned women including one "pregnant trans man" with missing breasts, top surgery scars, pregnant, and a scrubby beard. My kids also learned there were 13 possible genders and we are all on a "gender spectrum."
Keep speaking the truth, thank you!!
> You raise an interesting observation about the role of biology and lived experiences in shaping identity.
Which you as usual then proceed to ignore.
Correlation is not causation. It is unsurprising that people who are classified as "transgender" through self-selection have brains from people who are not "transgender". That does not mean that the brain itself is a "male" brain or "female" brain anymore than a person being quite tall makes them a male.
Looks like you are using AI to write these answers. Trying to maintain a very reasonable sounding tone, whilst spouting garbage. Just because you can find some stuff published does not mean it is real. Just because you can keep coming up with AI-generated mini-essays to try and obfuscate your way through this argument does not mean that you win. I have a full-time job, and it precludes spending all my time in rebutting the garbage you keep posting.
"one cannot attribute crimes to biological sex". Consistently 98-99% of sexual assault crimes are MALE. Violent crimes are mostly MALE. Deny this and you deny reality.
"Mortality data is complex with many factors. 2 suicides of 337 shows 98% still living." Dear me, this is not a particularly good recommendation, given that we do not expect young people to normally die at this rate.
"Lives at risk" - the rate of suicide is not actually higher for transgender id people than for other people with a similar range of mental health problems. And there is no proof that medicalised gender transition decreases the risk. Anecdotally I see detransitioners who are suicidal because of their distress at what they have done to their bodies. If this medicalisation of gender identity was so life-saving, where were all the dead kids 20 years ago, who were so distressed about being in the wrong body? They didn't exist, because they had not been subjected to queer theory propaganda telling them they were born in the wrong body.
There is a somewhat elevated suicide rate, but it is no higher than the rate seen in those with similar mental health complaints of depression and anxiety, that the trans-ID people also have. The rate is still low overall - about 4-5 times the general population. The most heinously evil thing that the transgender lobby does is actually promote suicidal ideation in transgender youth. They are told constantly that trans people have an extreme suicide risk. And it is a lie. There are good stats to prove it including a paper in the last month from Finland in BMJ Mental Health. The level of suicide is still low, nothing like the scary figures for 'suicidal ideation' of 50 or 80%. And there is absolutely no data to show that medical transition reduces suicide. I know because I have read the literature on this. Results of online surveys asking people how suicidal they feel are just garbage and unrelated to actual suicide rates.
The rest of your blurb above, I can largely debunk and could provide references, but honestly, I have better things to do now. You are not accurately reporting the data on reasons for detransition at all. There are several good papers on that. Goodbye.
> While limitations absolutely exist and standards should continue improving, claims that no evidence supports benefits of transition or that it universally causes harm are factually incorrect based on current data.
Doesn't say good things about your "data" now does it.
> I understand where you are coming from, but the research does not support your claim.
Well the current state of psychology research is such that it's claims are indistinguishable from BS, especially when they align with leftist dogma.
https://www.experimental-history.com/p/im-so-sorry-for-psychologys-loss