My objection is with the notion that anyone who opposes trans activists are automatically right-wing. It's laughable that trans activists want to call TERFs right-wing, as if radical feminists were ever conservative. Trans activists don't own the left. They don't represent the left. Hell, trans activists don't even represent all trans people.
The fact is that there are plenty of people on the left who oppose trans activism. Dave Chapelle, JK Rowling, Richard Dawkins, Bette Midler, and Macy Gray are not conservatives. Trans activists want to portray anyone who opposes them as far-right. In reality, trans activists are a small portion of the far-left. Other members of the left, moderates, and conservatives all oppose those activists.
The problem is, the left won't even countenance someone saying , hey guys, we ought to pause and take stock. I'm coming at this from a UK perspective. The TERFs there are all old trade uniony, anti war, help the AIDS patients lefties.
This issue has really made me loose respect for the left, despite having been one all my life.
This is just the most egregious example of ideological capture. I freely admit I'm not an expert in all economic/social/ environment issues. But I know who has the babies, and I know teens are vulnerable in identity formation, and i know they're wrong about this. What else are they wrong about?
The Greens in my country are totally captured by this. I no longer trust them.
The left wing “subs” of Reddit are overrun with woke mods. Even /r/socialism puts trans activism above issues of class and is banning people for mild disagreements relating to gender. It’s bizarre.
Socialist have, for centuries now, always pushed divisive issues in order to foment clashes — strong disagreements that they hope will eventually lead to “a real revolution”. The foot soldiers often do not even realize they are being used by top leaders.
They have not been able to use “issues of class” alone to bring about change, so now they’re using trans kids, black identity resentments, etc.
All the “heated emotional” clashes we are seeing in out society benefit those who want to foment violent revolt in the West.
There's an attempt that so far is succeeding in turning this into a culture war rather than a medical issue. No one should want any person medicalized inappropriately in this way and as Chloe says, outcomes are not even known. This is not a political issue any more than opioids or big tobacco were.
Too many people who are left wing have fallen for this lie and think they are defending children , rather than defending indiscriminate irreversible surgeries and drugging of them for a condition that in many cases neither needs this nor benefits. In fact the opposite. Thank you Chloe for speaking out so powerfully, your voice and those of others needs to be heard front and center. This is a horrific medical scandal.
It's a bitter pill for me to swallow but I do blame the left for turning this into a culture war issue.
You're right, it should not be.
But #nodebate was a TRA slogan from the start, and I urge anyone who's not familiar with the Dentons document to look it up. It's been ideological from the start, and young people like Chloe are only collateral damage to these people
The left now is not, in any way the left we might imagine. They HIDE behind the identity crowd to give an appearance of being left. The propaganda works on the militant left aka NEOLIBERAL FASCISTS, but it does not on people who are genuinely liberal and not what we see today.
Recall that speech Biden gave where he looked like an authoritarian fascist screaming fascist tropes and accusing maga of being extremists. This works on those who have TDS, but it did not for everyone else: TRUE Leftists, the right and the biggest voting bloc in the country INDEPENDENTS, of which I now claim after 35 years as a Democrat that ended on 2016 after Dems STOLE the primary from Sanders, just as they did from Trump and as they will do with the upcoming "selection", are DONE with Dem nonsense
And there are MILLIONS more like me, you or anyone not swallowing Dem fascist threats
It feels like, over the past ten years or so, the left has absorbed many of the pushy, prejudiced jerk personalities formerly associated with the right. The trans activists dress themselves up as antiracist and pro “trans”, but when you look at their methods, beyond the superficial self ID, they’re just as prejudiced and exclusionary as the people they demonize. Parallel to gender activism, they think racism against black people can be defeated with racism against white people as if it’s some kind of zero sum game. In reality, they’re just increasing the amount of racism in the world and they’re driving people into the fascist right. They’re not de-escalating, dismantling racism. They’re increasing it. They’re trying to beat “rich white men” at their own game. They’re literally, actively increasing the problem they critique. They’re the same cynical jerks obsessed with climbing in social status and power. They’re giving us old wine in new bottles.
It's very interesting how transitioned people vilify detransitioners, even young adults who were clearly led down a wrong path at a very young age and suffered immense physical and mental pain because of it. It's as if every detransitioner rattles their own instable trans-reality and therefore they need to lash out at anyone who questions it.
Yes. If gender identity activists (who I prefer to call "biophobes") were confident in their identities and take on reality, why would detrans stories upset them?
Why wouldn't they want every person making this decision, and her family and healthcare team to be darn sure it was the right decision for her, permanently?
Why would they want themselves or their movement to be associated with or playing any role in someone ultimately changing her mind and perhaps regretting her decision, and enduring lifelong adverse health and psychological consequences as a result?
Well done for taking such a bad attempt at high school playground bullying in such good humour. Putting yourself out there and coping that on the chin is not easy. I appreciate you just stating the obvious for the rest of us. It makes us feel less crazy ourselves and gives me hope for my baby girls (3 and 2) that they won’t have to deal with THIS kind of crazy.
This agenda has already deeply infiltrated the public schools. All those drag shows etc, is manipulation to softdn kids up to accept that they would want to transition someday. I am very grateful my kids are grown, but if they were still young none of them would ever sit in a public school.
You are so right, an important voice in our time. The bias journalists have bought into is at a webpage called Trans Journalists Association Style Guide. It is an astonished piece of totalitarian propaganda, but tells us that ex-wives (like me), detranstioners, families and those who want to talk valid data are old, tired stories, don't write about them. They pull out the suicide cloak of emotional blackmail at every turn, which contradicts all we know about depressed thought states.
What bothers me the most is the vitriol they wield, razor sharp, at one person who's been through so much, and due to medical malpractice. I had the experience of this translated into legalese of sworn affidavits during my divorce from a man who went down the trans path, groomers clutching exorbitant fees all the way.
I want these doctors and grooming practitioners to answer in court, every one of them.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iunivesre, 2022)
The Rynkiewicz, et al, 2019 study on girls with autism is up on my blog now, with commentary, the abstract and the link to the study on pubmed site. At uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com, along with post about the dreadful quote from Suzi Green about her son's "dysphoria" displayed through play with Barbie dolls at age 7.
There is no diagnostic measure to differentiate between the rigid mindset of ASD (autism spectrum diagnosis) and the rigid, indoctrinated verbalizations of girls who claim they need to escape from their sexed bodies. None.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
Thank you for your article, and for all of your speaking out and activism. Your writing is incredible. So is your courage, dedication, passion, and smart activism.
You are waking up huge numbers of people, and giving more people the courage to speak up, because you have done so, giving legitimacy to the concerns they've been afraid to share.
You are a shero and role model to probably hundreds of thousands of people, and we are grateful to you and admire you for it.
You are a very brave young lady, and on behalf of my many grandchildren, I want to thank you for using your experience to fight against this happening to other children.
On a site like this is there any compelling need to refer to Dawn as "she?" The use of language as a weapon on truth and on the destabilization of reality ought to be fought where it can. I recognize none of us wants to be kicked off social media for being truthful, but at this stage every inch of ground matters.
Dawn is a desperately troubled man who's continues to be successful at making others pretend he's not, and this is the heart of the entire trans discussion. What happened to you was the result of the healthcare industry profiting horribly from mental illness and the guilt and desperation of parents.
My objection is with the notion that anyone who opposes trans activists are automatically right-wing. It's laughable that trans activists want to call TERFs right-wing, as if radical feminists were ever conservative. Trans activists don't own the left. They don't represent the left. Hell, trans activists don't even represent all trans people.
The fact is that there are plenty of people on the left who oppose trans activism. Dave Chapelle, JK Rowling, Richard Dawkins, Bette Midler, and Macy Gray are not conservatives. Trans activists want to portray anyone who opposes them as far-right. In reality, trans activists are a small portion of the far-left. Other members of the left, moderates, and conservatives all oppose those activists.
The problem is, the left won't even countenance someone saying , hey guys, we ought to pause and take stock. I'm coming at this from a UK perspective. The TERFs there are all old trade uniony, anti war, help the AIDS patients lefties.
This issue has really made me loose respect for the left, despite having been one all my life.
This is just the most egregious example of ideological capture. I freely admit I'm not an expert in all economic/social/ environment issues. But I know who has the babies, and I know teens are vulnerable in identity formation, and i know they're wrong about this. What else are they wrong about?
The Greens in my country are totally captured by this. I no longer trust them.
The left wing “subs” of Reddit are overrun with woke mods. Even /r/socialism puts trans activism above issues of class and is banning people for mild disagreements relating to gender. It’s bizarre.
Socialist have, for centuries now, always pushed divisive issues in order to foment clashes — strong disagreements that they hope will eventually lead to “a real revolution”. The foot soldiers often do not even realize they are being used by top leaders.
They have not been able to use “issues of class” alone to bring about change, so now they’re using trans kids, black identity resentments, etc.
All the “heated emotional” clashes we are seeing in out society benefit those who want to foment violent revolt in the West.
There's an attempt that so far is succeeding in turning this into a culture war rather than a medical issue. No one should want any person medicalized inappropriately in this way and as Chloe says, outcomes are not even known. This is not a political issue any more than opioids or big tobacco were.
Too many people who are left wing have fallen for this lie and think they are defending children , rather than defending indiscriminate irreversible surgeries and drugging of them for a condition that in many cases neither needs this nor benefits. In fact the opposite. Thank you Chloe for speaking out so powerfully, your voice and those of others needs to be heard front and center. This is a horrific medical scandal.
It's a bitter pill for me to swallow but I do blame the left for turning this into a culture war issue.
You're right, it should not be.
But #nodebate was a TRA slogan from the start, and I urge anyone who's not familiar with the Dentons document to look it up. It's been ideological from the start, and young people like Chloe are only collateral damage to these people
Tan
The left now is not, in any way the left we might imagine. They HIDE behind the identity crowd to give an appearance of being left. The propaganda works on the militant left aka NEOLIBERAL FASCISTS, but it does not on people who are genuinely liberal and not what we see today.
Recall that speech Biden gave where he looked like an authoritarian fascist screaming fascist tropes and accusing maga of being extremists. This works on those who have TDS, but it did not for everyone else: TRUE Leftists, the right and the biggest voting bloc in the country INDEPENDENTS, of which I now claim after 35 years as a Democrat that ended on 2016 after Dems STOLE the primary from Sanders, just as they did from Trump and as they will do with the upcoming "selection", are DONE with Dem nonsense
And there are MILLIONS more like me, you or anyone not swallowing Dem fascist threats
The only extremists I see are DEMOCRATS
Not to mention there's a subculture of trans identified men who are racist as hell. So not the stunning and brave progressives they pretend to be
It feels like, over the past ten years or so, the left has absorbed many of the pushy, prejudiced jerk personalities formerly associated with the right. The trans activists dress themselves up as antiracist and pro “trans”, but when you look at their methods, beyond the superficial self ID, they’re just as prejudiced and exclusionary as the people they demonize. Parallel to gender activism, they think racism against black people can be defeated with racism against white people as if it’s some kind of zero sum game. In reality, they’re just increasing the amount of racism in the world and they’re driving people into the fascist right. They’re not de-escalating, dismantling racism. They’re increasing it. They’re trying to beat “rich white men” at their own game. They’re literally, actively increasing the problem they critique. They’re the same cynical jerks obsessed with climbing in social status and power. They’re giving us old wine in new bottles.
Thank you
I'll say it's impressive how far critical theory activism has spread based on a foundation of indefensible arguments + a deranged form of shaming.
I'll sit this one out until there is true change
His snide hit piece was a disgraceful. Thoroughly unpleasant man.
Thank you for your bravery, Chloe.
It's very interesting how transitioned people vilify detransitioners, even young adults who were clearly led down a wrong path at a very young age and suffered immense physical and mental pain because of it. It's as if every detransitioner rattles their own instable trans-reality and therefore they need to lash out at anyone who questions it.
Yes. If gender identity activists (who I prefer to call "biophobes") were confident in their identities and take on reality, why would detrans stories upset them?
Why wouldn't they want every person making this decision, and her family and healthcare team to be darn sure it was the right decision for her, permanently?
Why would they want themselves or their movement to be associated with or playing any role in someone ultimately changing her mind and perhaps regretting her decision, and enduring lifelong adverse health and psychological consequences as a result?
Chloe is a gifted writer. Please don’t give up the fight. You will save many young women from a similar or worse fate. Thank you for your courage.
Well done for taking such a bad attempt at high school playground bullying in such good humour. Putting yourself out there and coping that on the chin is not easy. I appreciate you just stating the obvious for the rest of us. It makes us feel less crazy ourselves and gives me hope for my baby girls (3 and 2) that they won’t have to deal with THIS kind of crazy.
I truly hope you plan to home school
This agenda has already deeply infiltrated the public schools. All those drag shows etc, is manipulation to softdn kids up to accept that they would want to transition someday. I am very grateful my kids are grown, but if they were still young none of them would ever sit in a public school.
Thank you for speaking out!! It does matter and it is making a difference.
You are so right, an important voice in our time. The bias journalists have bought into is at a webpage called Trans Journalists Association Style Guide. It is an astonished piece of totalitarian propaganda, but tells us that ex-wives (like me), detranstioners, families and those who want to talk valid data are old, tired stories, don't write about them. They pull out the suicide cloak of emotional blackmail at every turn, which contradicts all we know about depressed thought states.
What bothers me the most is the vitriol they wield, razor sharp, at one person who's been through so much, and due to medical malpractice. I had the experience of this translated into legalese of sworn affidavits during my divorce from a man who went down the trans path, groomers clutching exorbitant fees all the way.
I want these doctors and grooming practitioners to answer in court, every one of them.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iunivesre, 2022)
uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com
He, him, his. Stop calling a man she.
“An idea is something you have; an ideology is something that has you” ― Morris Berman
Clearly on this issue we are traversing highly "ideological" terrain - disconnected from reason, science, and even basic common sense.
Wow, if even half of this is true (and I believe that it all is true), Ennis is a complete hot mess and nobody should take his nonsense seriously.
The Rynkiewicz, et al, 2019 study on girls with autism is up on my blog now, with commentary, the abstract and the link to the study on pubmed site. At uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com, along with post about the dreadful quote from Suzi Green about her son's "dysphoria" displayed through play with Barbie dolls at age 7.
There is no diagnostic measure to differentiate between the rigid mindset of ASD (autism spectrum diagnosis) and the rigid, indoctrinated verbalizations of girls who claim they need to escape from their sexed bodies. None.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
Dear Chloe Cole,
Thank you for your article, and for all of your speaking out and activism. Your writing is incredible. So is your courage, dedication, passion, and smart activism.
You are waking up huge numbers of people, and giving more people the courage to speak up, because you have done so, giving legitimacy to the concerns they've been afraid to share.
You are a shero and role model to probably hundreds of thousands of people, and we are grateful to you and admire you for it.
You are a very brave young lady, and on behalf of my many grandchildren, I want to thank you for using your experience to fight against this happening to other children.
On a site like this is there any compelling need to refer to Dawn as "she?" The use of language as a weapon on truth and on the destabilization of reality ought to be fought where it can. I recognize none of us wants to be kicked off social media for being truthful, but at this stage every inch of ground matters.
Dawn is a desperately troubled man who's continues to be successful at making others pretend he's not, and this is the heart of the entire trans discussion. What happened to you was the result of the healthcare industry profiting horribly from mental illness and the guilt and desperation of parents.
Enough courtesy around this disaster.
Thank you for standing up for responsible medical care, Chloe Cole. Your voice is crucial and should never be marginalized by trans activism.
Perhaps Chloe represents what she fears most, the possibility Dawn will detransition.
He already has, more than once. Ennis has flip-flopped repeatedly on his "gender identity."
This is it. This is why they turn on detrans ppl and are so hateful towards them
Plus of course he's jealous that Chloe is a normal, pretty young woman while he's a total gross mess lmao