The justifications given for inducing lactation in males are not grounded in evidence, but relate entirely to the imagined need to “affirm” their female gender identities.
I am a subscriber because I strongly believe more people need to listen to your point of view. I have a teenager who has been captured by this gender falsehood. It is such a waste of thought, energy, intellect and compassion.
Please continue to do this dangerous thing of speaking truth and supporting this truth with science.
I am astounded that anyone finds it important to not only support but to aid and promote a genetic male to lactate. Much worse is the thought that an infant, which cannot give consent, is involved in this paraphelia.
Well written and thought out, this is professional journalism.
I wrote notes some time back which parallel your findings.
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Well, to throw a 10 minute Pubmed and NIH check - men can lactate with sufficient prolactin - which women get naturally from pregnancy. It requires superphysiological levels of prolactin via artificial stimulation in men. For the most part the breast gland in men is the same as the breast gland in women, the “scaffold” is the same though in women estrogen expands all breast tissues through puberty and pregnancy. Men have insufficient estrogen to develop significantly breast tissue with a few exceptions.
I asked myself to pause profound revulsion and consider basic questions: can males lactate, can males lactate naturally, is the milk they produce equivalent to female milk in composition, and quantity. Would the condition of lactating in a man preclude safe nursing.
A) Males can lactate at birth.
1. newborn males sometimes lactate due to mother’s prolactin crossing the placenta into the fetus, but soon after birth this stops because the prolactin supply stop, therefore from birth males can produce milk naturally. “Witches Milk”
B) males can lactate naturally without a serious medical condition.
2. Most prolactin synthesis is in the pituitary gland, regulated by estrogen, but there are other prolactin generating systems in the male body. Prolactin has 300+ receptors in the body, its role in human biology is not limited to inducing milk synthesis. Breast tissue itself can produce prolactin, for example by being stimulated mechanically - sucking and nipple play can trigger prolactin. I understood certain antipsychotic drugs can modulate nerve cell activity in such a way to trigger the pituitary to synthesize prolactin also.
3. Boys not infrequently develop gynecomastia - their breast tissue grows - and can rarely spontaneously produce milk during onset and through puberty due to conversion of surging levels of testosterone through aromatisation into estrogen, which triggers the pituitary. This condition is called galactorrhea.
4. Adult men far beyond puberty can naturally develop some level of gynecomastia, a common condition - by some estimates up to 70% of men have some level as they enter their 60’s and 70’s, but full on lactation is very rare.
C) With two important exceptions, male milk is mostly the same as female milk
5. Women cycle though a complex series of hormonal changes immediately after birth. The milk immediately after birth is called colostrum, is extremely rich in nutrients, then a few days later it adjusts composition which has a different balance of nutrients. Men cannot naturally have this shift, as they have no uterus, they have not hosted a placenta, and have not gone through labor, as a start. Not all women produce colostrum, it is not essential to life for the baby, but colostrum is valuable.
6. Female human milk contains antibodies which provide immunological defense through direct absorption, including globulins. The absorption is throughout the digestive system so it also fosters balanced gut flora. Women’s and men’s immune systems are different, and it’s not all clear the immunological transfer from a man to a baby would resemble a woman’s transfer.
7. Post-colostrum milk seems to be nutritionally the same for men and women, given the same prolactin environment.
D) Men cannot produce an adequate volume of milk.
8. Female mammary glands vary from 500g to 1000g in size, being a predominant part of the pectoral region, along with fat. Male gynecomastic glands are 45g to 385g as noted at surgical removal. The largest known male gland would be significantly less than the least female gland.
9. Male glands lack lobules, and have significantly fewer ducts than women. The gland not only is inadequate to produce milk on a mass basis, it isn’t organized anatomically to convey what milk it could make to be easily.
E) Chemically induced lactation would transfer significant chemicals with unknown consequence to a newborn.
10. Bodybuilders who raise their testosterone levels to multiples of natural level create excess estrogen through the normal process of aromatisation. Bodybuilders with extreme doping develop gynecomastia, development of breast tissue, but it’s insufficient for lactation.
11. Estrogen supplements, and antipsychotic drugs common for lactation would be sufficient to create some lactation (less than 10% of what would be necessary) at the cost of major issues. Male lactation could convey these chemicals into the infant.
A) domperidone : antipsychotic which with overdosing can induce sudden cardiac death, infant mini-puberty suppression, infant lactation, fatal hypernatremia - central toxicity
B) metoclopramide : normal use and overdosing can create permanent movement disorder, neuroleptic malignant syndrome,
Kidney failure etc.
C) chlorpromazine : use can create permanent movement disorders, blood pressure disorders, yawning disorders up to inducing yawning uncontrollably coupled with orgasm
D)sulpiride : use can create movement disorders, blood disorders, neuroleptic malignant syndrome,
So men can lactate unnaturally in Tiny quantities, with the effect of lacking colostrum, and producing a spectrum of possibly severe-to-fatal infant effects from the antipsychotic chemicals circulating
Men for whom the female role is AGP, rhe concept of biding with an infantc bringing the infant in service of sexual play is itself a terrible abuse.
In summary, men could poison the child, and induce an infant into a type of pawn for sexual pleasure without consent
The process is profoundly unethical, dangerous,during and after the infant withdrawing from psychotic medication with potentially permanent neurological damage.
Research on the subject itself involving infants in any way is entirely unethical and should result in medical ethics charges.
I totally agree with your last sentence. THERE SHOULD NOT BE A SINGLE STUDY OF THIS. We should have enough sense to know that even trying this experiment on infants is gravely immoral. They cannot consent, by definition. There is no benefit to them, even if the experiment were 100% successful, meaning that no harm came to the child.
It’s almost the definition of unethical - there is not good that can come of it. It’s simply doing drug experiments on infants hoping they don’t do harm, without any presumption of good whatsoever.
Domperidone is illegal in the United States, and that needs to be shouted anytime someone brings up male lactation. MtF patients illegally import it to induce breast fluid production, despite the fact that it was specifically banned because of its harm to nursing infants.
I was recently reading scientific articles about trans-identifying males who induce breast fluid production. These articles point to the use of domperidone or spironolactone. Domperidone gets passed through breast fluid and harms the heart of the nursing baby. Spironolactone also gets passed through breast fluid, and it has been linked to causing a baby boy's genitals to develop abnormally. I was shocked when one of the statements in the paper cited a reference that stated the OPPOSITE of what they claimed.
In one case study about male lactation (https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1.pdf), it was stated that "Spironolactone is often used, and though it crosses the placenta and into human milk, it is considered safe during chestfeeding." It cites a reference from the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). The AAP article does NOT state that either of those drugs are safe for a nursing infant!
The AAP article states: "Use of a drug with a significant adverse effect in a lactating woman (such as an arrhythmia) may be acceptable to treat a serious illness in the mother; however, use of the same drug to increase milk production would not be acceptable."
Carrie Clark, I'd like to add that "as long as adults and not hurting others" actually does not exist. A significant percent of "male to female" cross sex ideating men started a secret life while married to a woman and after fathering children. The therapists, endocrinologists, surgeons and other practitioners involved have put blinders on as far as the damage to the women they married and children they fathered. I collect the only data in the world on trans widows, women who divorced these men. Very few of us got out without acquiring PTSD. Most of us had no idea he had these proclivities and we were not in "open" or "poly" marriages. Of 61 trans widows who have replied to my survey, 20 Questions to Ask a Trans Widow, a solid 1/3 of us were either sexually assaulted or physically assaulted by him. A must higher percent of us were publicly defamed by him and many of us have experienced him and "the movement" engaging in alienation of affection of our children. We get criticized for getting married at all, not standing up for our rights, or from the other end, for refusing to "give it a try" to stay in an untenable marriage. Some women endured living in the same household for several years while accruing the financial wherewithal to leave. The data speaks:
While I totally agree with your conclusions and what you said about "male lactation" or whatever it might be called, I do want to lodge one small criticism.
You indicate that you are not any more bothered by adults medically transitioning than you are by breast augmentation or Brazilian butt lifts and other cosmetic procedures. While I agree with your thought that it is sad that people feel the need to undergo such procedures, I have to point out an obvious distinction between such procedures and medical transition, as it currently stands.
I don't see anyone indicating that breast augmentation or Brazilian butt lifts are "life-saving" and medically necessary, nor are such procedures covered by medical insurance or publicly funded Medicaid. I have a huge problem with selling these invasive medical procedures, such as double mastectomies, vaginoplasties, castrations, phalloplasties and, funny enough, breast augmentation and even butt lifts, as "life-saving," and medically necessary and covering them with insurance or Medicaid. Adults can do what they want with their bodies, but should not be lied to, and society should not be paying for purely cosmetic - and rather destructive - procedures. This distinction matters.
Trans propagandists always put ideology before evidence, because that’s pretty much all they’ve got. The rest is linguistic gobbledygook and intimidation.
This is another leak in the dike holding back the pedophile flood. I give it maybe five or ten years until pedophilia is good and pedophobia is a crime.
"Male Lactation: The New Frontier in Evidence Laundering" - Somebody wake me up from this dream where a headline like this is a real thing and actually happening. 😑
Despite the good in this article, the author seems to be sexist. From this quote:
"I remember watching breastfeeding tutorials in my early teen years because ‘I got off to it’…I also have this pregnancy and breeding kink. I’ve fantasized about being bred or being pregnant."
I can't tell if it was written by a male or a female. My guess would be female. The author seems to want us to guess male, but this is like the "What do cows drink?" joke, because the author has just told us about a male. Additionally, the author seems to have claims about male and female sexuality, which have no place in this article in my opinion. I disagree with the claims, they are irrelevant and thus distract from the point, and the author chooses to compare a person who is transgender and on female hormones to a normal sexual male. The author seems to think it is appropriate to say "It is easier for me to imagine a male behaving in a way I find as revolting than to imagine a female to behave in that same revolting way. Isn't it the same for you? " This is an inappropriate sexist attitude. The author should probably try to get rid of their own bias against males and should certainly keep it out of their articles. In this case, the author could have stuck to the point without saying "oh yes and this is male behavior."
Lots of educational content here, and it is important to draw attention to junk posing as science. Note my wording, we should not call things science when they are not science.
I am a subscriber because I strongly believe more people need to listen to your point of view. I have a teenager who has been captured by this gender falsehood. It is such a waste of thought, energy, intellect and compassion.
Please continue to do this dangerous thing of speaking truth and supporting this truth with science.
I am astounded that anyone finds it important to not only support but to aid and promote a genetic male to lactate. Much worse is the thought that an infant, which cannot give consent, is involved in this paraphelia.
Well written and thought out, this is professional journalism.
I wrote notes some time back which parallel your findings.
===
Well, to throw a 10 minute Pubmed and NIH check - men can lactate with sufficient prolactin - which women get naturally from pregnancy. It requires superphysiological levels of prolactin via artificial stimulation in men. For the most part the breast gland in men is the same as the breast gland in women, the “scaffold” is the same though in women estrogen expands all breast tissues through puberty and pregnancy. Men have insufficient estrogen to develop significantly breast tissue with a few exceptions.
I asked myself to pause profound revulsion and consider basic questions: can males lactate, can males lactate naturally, is the milk they produce equivalent to female milk in composition, and quantity. Would the condition of lactating in a man preclude safe nursing.
A) Males can lactate at birth.
1. newborn males sometimes lactate due to mother’s prolactin crossing the placenta into the fetus, but soon after birth this stops because the prolactin supply stop, therefore from birth males can produce milk naturally. “Witches Milk”
B) males can lactate naturally without a serious medical condition.
2. Most prolactin synthesis is in the pituitary gland, regulated by estrogen, but there are other prolactin generating systems in the male body. Prolactin has 300+ receptors in the body, its role in human biology is not limited to inducing milk synthesis. Breast tissue itself can produce prolactin, for example by being stimulated mechanically - sucking and nipple play can trigger prolactin. I understood certain antipsychotic drugs can modulate nerve cell activity in such a way to trigger the pituitary to synthesize prolactin also.
3. Boys not infrequently develop gynecomastia - their breast tissue grows - and can rarely spontaneously produce milk during onset and through puberty due to conversion of surging levels of testosterone through aromatisation into estrogen, which triggers the pituitary. This condition is called galactorrhea.
4. Adult men far beyond puberty can naturally develop some level of gynecomastia, a common condition - by some estimates up to 70% of men have some level as they enter their 60’s and 70’s, but full on lactation is very rare.
C) With two important exceptions, male milk is mostly the same as female milk
5. Women cycle though a complex series of hormonal changes immediately after birth. The milk immediately after birth is called colostrum, is extremely rich in nutrients, then a few days later it adjusts composition which has a different balance of nutrients. Men cannot naturally have this shift, as they have no uterus, they have not hosted a placenta, and have not gone through labor, as a start. Not all women produce colostrum, it is not essential to life for the baby, but colostrum is valuable.
6. Female human milk contains antibodies which provide immunological defense through direct absorption, including globulins. The absorption is throughout the digestive system so it also fosters balanced gut flora. Women’s and men’s immune systems are different, and it’s not all clear the immunological transfer from a man to a baby would resemble a woman’s transfer.
7. Post-colostrum milk seems to be nutritionally the same for men and women, given the same prolactin environment.
D) Men cannot produce an adequate volume of milk.
8. Female mammary glands vary from 500g to 1000g in size, being a predominant part of the pectoral region, along with fat. Male gynecomastic glands are 45g to 385g as noted at surgical removal. The largest known male gland would be significantly less than the least female gland.
9. Male glands lack lobules, and have significantly fewer ducts than women. The gland not only is inadequate to produce milk on a mass basis, it isn’t organized anatomically to convey what milk it could make to be easily.
E) Chemically induced lactation would transfer significant chemicals with unknown consequence to a newborn.
10. Bodybuilders who raise their testosterone levels to multiples of natural level create excess estrogen through the normal process of aromatisation. Bodybuilders with extreme doping develop gynecomastia, development of breast tissue, but it’s insufficient for lactation.
11. Estrogen supplements, and antipsychotic drugs common for lactation would be sufficient to create some lactation (less than 10% of what would be necessary) at the cost of major issues. Male lactation could convey these chemicals into the infant.
A) domperidone : antipsychotic which with overdosing can induce sudden cardiac death, infant mini-puberty suppression, infant lactation, fatal hypernatremia - central toxicity
B) metoclopramide : normal use and overdosing can create permanent movement disorder, neuroleptic malignant syndrome,
Kidney failure etc.
C) chlorpromazine : use can create permanent movement disorders, blood pressure disorders, yawning disorders up to inducing yawning uncontrollably coupled with orgasm
D)sulpiride : use can create movement disorders, blood disorders, neuroleptic malignant syndrome,
So men can lactate unnaturally in Tiny quantities, with the effect of lacking colostrum, and producing a spectrum of possibly severe-to-fatal infant effects from the antipsychotic chemicals circulating
Men for whom the female role is AGP, rhe concept of biding with an infantc bringing the infant in service of sexual play is itself a terrible abuse.
In summary, men could poison the child, and induce an infant into a type of pawn for sexual pleasure without consent
The process is profoundly unethical, dangerous,during and after the infant withdrawing from psychotic medication with potentially permanent neurological damage.
Research on the subject itself involving infants in any way is entirely unethical and should result in medical ethics charges.
I totally agree with your last sentence. THERE SHOULD NOT BE A SINGLE STUDY OF THIS. We should have enough sense to know that even trying this experiment on infants is gravely immoral. They cannot consent, by definition. There is no benefit to them, even if the experiment were 100% successful, meaning that no harm came to the child.
It’s almost the definition of unethical - there is not good that can come of it. It’s simply doing drug experiments on infants hoping they don’t do harm, without any presumption of good whatsoever.
yep. pretty much.
Domperidone is illegal in the United States, and that needs to be shouted anytime someone brings up male lactation. MtF patients illegally import it to induce breast fluid production, despite the fact that it was specifically banned because of its harm to nursing infants.
http://www.fda.gov/drugs/drugsafety/informationbydrugclass/ucm173886.htm
I was recently reading scientific articles about trans-identifying males who induce breast fluid production. These articles point to the use of domperidone or spironolactone. Domperidone gets passed through breast fluid and harms the heart of the nursing baby. Spironolactone also gets passed through breast fluid, and it has been linked to causing a baby boy's genitals to develop abnormally. I was shocked when one of the statements in the paper cited a reference that stated the OPPOSITE of what they claimed.
In one case study about male lactation (https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1.pdf), it was stated that "Spironolactone is often used, and though it crosses the placenta and into human milk, it is considered safe during chestfeeding." It cites a reference from the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP). The AAP article does NOT state that either of those drugs are safe for a nursing infant!
The AAP article states: "Use of a drug with a significant adverse effect in a lactating woman (such as an arrhythmia) may be acceptable to treat a serious illness in the mother; however, use of the same drug to increase milk production would not be acceptable."
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/132/3/e796/31630/The-Transfer-of-Drugs-and-Therapeutics-Into-Human?autologincheck=redirected
Carrie Clark, I'd like to add that "as long as adults and not hurting others" actually does not exist. A significant percent of "male to female" cross sex ideating men started a secret life while married to a woman and after fathering children. The therapists, endocrinologists, surgeons and other practitioners involved have put blinders on as far as the damage to the women they married and children they fathered. I collect the only data in the world on trans widows, women who divorced these men. Very few of us got out without acquiring PTSD. Most of us had no idea he had these proclivities and we were not in "open" or "poly" marriages. Of 61 trans widows who have replied to my survey, 20 Questions to Ask a Trans Widow, a solid 1/3 of us were either sexually assaulted or physically assaulted by him. A must higher percent of us were publicly defamed by him and many of us have experienced him and "the movement" engaging in alienation of affection of our children. We get criticized for getting married at all, not standing up for our rights, or from the other end, for refusing to "give it a try" to stay in an untenable marriage. Some women endured living in the same household for several years while accruing the financial wherewithal to leave. The data speaks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owyUun77TKo&t=32s
This is good. Moderna has the mRNA vaccine/therapy ready to go. The Feds will pay $1500 per injection with a prepay of 1 million doses.
Finally male lactation ! Its what humanity needs to combat global warming/cooling and warming again. Such a weird cycle @#$
Yeah, business is good...
While I totally agree with your conclusions and what you said about "male lactation" or whatever it might be called, I do want to lodge one small criticism.
You indicate that you are not any more bothered by adults medically transitioning than you are by breast augmentation or Brazilian butt lifts and other cosmetic procedures. While I agree with your thought that it is sad that people feel the need to undergo such procedures, I have to point out an obvious distinction between such procedures and medical transition, as it currently stands.
I don't see anyone indicating that breast augmentation or Brazilian butt lifts are "life-saving" and medically necessary, nor are such procedures covered by medical insurance or publicly funded Medicaid. I have a huge problem with selling these invasive medical procedures, such as double mastectomies, vaginoplasties, castrations, phalloplasties and, funny enough, breast augmentation and even butt lifts, as "life-saving," and medically necessary and covering them with insurance or Medicaid. Adults can do what they want with their bodies, but should not be lied to, and society should not be paying for purely cosmetic - and rather destructive - procedures. This distinction matters.
Trans propagandists always put ideology before evidence, because that’s pretty much all they’ve got. The rest is linguistic gobbledygook and intimidation.
This is another leak in the dike holding back the pedophile flood. I give it maybe five or ten years until pedophilia is good and pedophobia is a crime.
"Male Lactation: The New Frontier in Evidence Laundering" - Somebody wake me up from this dream where a headline like this is a real thing and actually happening. 😑
Despite the good in this article, the author seems to be sexist. From this quote:
"I remember watching breastfeeding tutorials in my early teen years because ‘I got off to it’…I also have this pregnancy and breeding kink. I’ve fantasized about being bred or being pregnant."
I can't tell if it was written by a male or a female. My guess would be female. The author seems to want us to guess male, but this is like the "What do cows drink?" joke, because the author has just told us about a male. Additionally, the author seems to have claims about male and female sexuality, which have no place in this article in my opinion. I disagree with the claims, they are irrelevant and thus distract from the point, and the author chooses to compare a person who is transgender and on female hormones to a normal sexual male. The author seems to think it is appropriate to say "It is easier for me to imagine a male behaving in a way I find as revolting than to imagine a female to behave in that same revolting way. Isn't it the same for you? " This is an inappropriate sexist attitude. The author should probably try to get rid of their own bias against males and should certainly keep it out of their articles. In this case, the author could have stuck to the point without saying "oh yes and this is male behavior."
Lots of educational content here, and it is important to draw attention to junk posing as science. Note my wording, we should not call things science when they are not science.