I figured out why I intensely dislike the term “gender dysphoric”. It is not the same as trans but it is treated as virtually synonymous. It isn’t.
The easiest possible way to read this is to simply substitute “bullied” for “gender dysphoric”, and the underlying dynamic is clear.
The “explosion” is just re-classifying the ordinary 3-5% of children who are gay, and bullied for being gender atypical as “trans” (DSM definition of trans: gender atypical behavior). And then torturing them.
The irony is that the population which is suppose to be helped is precisely the one which is ignored, and the one which is should be supported is crucified.
the gender biz has to label everyone getting gender care as "dysphoric" because otherwise its simply a choice to ID as another gender. if its just a choice then theres no reason to allow men in womens spaces, football teams ect. but of course it is a choice for most . kids are told gender care will solve every problem. and when they take gender meds theyre celebrated. so of course a child will report positive results or stay with the program. i would argue reports from persons younger than 20 are meaningless. its no surprise a child who receives hormones at age 8 would still be taking them 4 years later. its only with puberty or perhaps independence from parents that the down sides of this "care" become more apparent
reading jamie reeds account, who was an intake manager at a gender clinic, many or most kids arrive at the clinics with issues that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. but theyre given gender meds anyways. the meds are given to everyone after a rubber stamped brief psych eval that is defacto part of the clinic. after ppl take gender meds their dysphoria begins or worsens. by placing people on gender meds for literially every psych issue, the gender industry is manufacturing dysphoria. without this most grow out of dysphoria. but once they take then meds their dysphoria is locked in and becomes worse. i imagine most who report dysphoria are just lying on the form. theyve been told gender "care" helps and they will say anything to get the meds.
adult men with agp fetish know they arent women. but they get a variety of thrills by pretending they are. anyone whose fetish is larping as women shouldnt be counted as a person with dysphoria. most likely they dont have any dysphoria at all. im certain there are a handful of people who are dysphoric. its probably 1/1000 as whats reported. for those people they need psych care. not pushed into ideology only care that harms more than helps
I agree that dysphoria is being manufactured in kids (and adults).
My ex was late onset, masculine, and had gender dysphoria. Trust me, I observed it in excruciating detail. AGP is sexually motivated, but it's a paraphilia, not a fetish, and is more complicated than a fetish. They aren't synonymous. Anne Lawrence explains this well.
Blanchard observed and reported on AGP men's dysphoria when he coined the term. It's why he created the typology, because both groups had dysphoria and wanted surgery, but he thought only one of those groups would benefit.
I'm not saying this to defend these men; I divorced one. But we don't make any headway on slowing the contagion by creating two dimensional villains instead of trying to understand the complex mental state so it can be addressed.
That said, there are fetishistic cross dressers as well, which can occur without AGP. And there appear to be more types than Blanchard's two original cohorts now, even beyond the new cohort of young girls.
its a free country. ppl can belive and say anything they want. the science of gender is a circular self reporting issue. just becuase somethings on paper dosent mean its not fiction. whatever men say about agp is still just another story. those storys are more similar to the storys of drug addicts and alcoholics than anything; the high from agp is a similar. no these men dont suffer. thats just a story. or if they do suffer its due to issues that have nothing to do with gender. what im saying is gender is a proxy for psych issues. one that the pharmaceutical industry is getting rich from. the proof of rhis is that gender care doesnt work. amsterdam says those on this care do terrible long term. men who rob the rights of women, kids, gays and others via gender ideology are harming others. but they are less of a villian than the polciy makers who enable this fraud. ask any heroin addict of they would like to continue with their habbit. they would say yes. agp is not a choice. but a ma n going into womems restroom is. its the ultimate misogyny amd ultimately they are the ones doing it.
Say you have "gender dysphoria" and you are diagnosed with FeelingsCancer, which justifies ANY "medical" procedures, including Mengelish experiments and unlimited cosmetic surgeries on taxpayers & health insurance premiums' dime.
Íris, what you say is very precise in a strange way: there is a cluster of syndromes, let’s call them “body dysphorias”, of which transsexuality is a variation. They are also called “body integrity identify disorders”, similar in a strange way to extreme prosapagnosia or “face blindness”.
All of them involve higher mental systems not recognizing the embodied self as the seen and felt body.
Trans wishes amputations of gonads or genitals. Some forms want amputation of limbs “to feel whole”, others enforce suicidal starvation to appear normal, or endless plastic surgery, or growing gigantic musculature to appear normal. It’s a hallucinatory experience in a degree, I have the large body version - my 19” biceps from a lifetime of exercise appear annoyingly small; and psychedelically change size if I’m near a large bodybuilder.
They all end in “surgery or suicide” to forestall unhappiness (I’ve learned to control the panic sensation of shrinking).
One day the connections between seemingly unrelated syndromes will be collected, understood and mitigated. Meanwhile we torture gay kids/.
Wasn't the original 2014 Dutch study funded by a Dutch pharmaceuticals company that manufactured Gonadatrophin inhibitors (like Lupron), thus the funding of this word salad must be revealed.
I've been adjacent to this movement since 1992, when I found my then-husband's 3 large format cross-dressing diaries. The patients are running the show, redefining every term; "transsexual" became "trans gender" and "sex change" (sic-there is no such thing as changing one's sex) became "transition." The PhD psychologist who diagnosed him "in the initial appointment," in 1993 was following, not leading. The other leader of this movement is Hollywood, going way back to Myra Breckenridge, through to Girl, Interrupted. (or was it Boy?)
If women like me had been allowed to have our say and tell these malpractice doctors that the patients they make glitter promises will actually never be accepted as their "chosen" sex, it would have helped work out a path towards fixing the body dissociation with a sexual fixation. That is what it is. Dr. Stephen B. Levine's words on institutional capture and WPATH as cult:
This is such and disturbing whistleblowing account of what's going on in "gender" clinics. Jamie Reed worked for 4 years at The Washington University School of Medicine Division of Infectious Diseases: "How little patients understood what they were getting into was illustrated by a call we received at the center in 2020 from a 17-year-old biological female patient on testosterone. She said she was bleeding from the vagina. In less than an hour she had soaked through an extra heavy pad, her jeans, and a towel she had wrapped around her waist. The nurse at the center told her to go to the ER right away. This girl had had intercourse, and because testosterone thins the vaginal tissues, her vaginal canal had ripped open. She had to be sedated and given surgery to repair the damage. She wasn’t the only vaginal laceration case we heard about. Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and grows into what looks like a microphallus, or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged clitoris now extended below her vulva, and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female. At the end of the call I thought to myself, “Wow, we hurt this kid.”
"...fewer patients are opting to remove gonads (ovaries and testes)"
Stories from Buck Angel and others suggest that cross-sex hormones end up damaging the sex organs so that they need removed later regardless of the patient's plans. This should be a part of the decision to get blockers and hormones, as kids who hope to keep their organs for whatever reason may not be getting what they bargained for.
"More than three-quarters (77%) of late-presenting “potentially eligible” females started puberty blockers at the Amsterdam clinic, compared to slightly more than half (53%) of the late-presenting males... The authors note this marked gap between females and males starting puberty blockers... is remarkable.”
Considering that parents heavily influence whether or not children arrive at these clinics and what treatment they pursue, it's worth wondering if parental fears about girls and puberty are a factor. Parents have long experienced more anxiety about their daughters' puberty than about their sons'.
Unlike male puberty, female puberty brings sexual objectification from adult men and boys, earlier onset of sexual interest, and the possibility of pregnancy.
I don't wish this thought I have onto anyone, but I've got a gut feeling that those children and young adults who submit to being gender guinea pigs won't live a very long life. There are no long-term studies of the effects of doing all this surgery and taking life-long hormones like this, but it seems that despite having to take hormones the rest of their lives, there's no going back to pre-hormone health should they wish to discontinue hormones and/or detransition.
I still recall when a study came out in the early 2000s that found that hormones that menopausal and post-menopausal women were taking were so dangerous that all the women taking them were told to immediately go off them. These were hormones our mothers and sometimes grandmothers took and after years of taking them, only then was the harm found and reacted to. For many of the younger women who had taken the hormones for a shorter period of time, the damage wasn't permanent. From what I read regarding the gender hormones, much of the damage is permanent.
Evidence that this is better than a placebo remains zero.
"The authors make several claims which, while technically accurate, may inadvertently be misleading."
There is nothing "inadevertent" about what these criminals are doing.
I figured out why I intensely dislike the term “gender dysphoric”. It is not the same as trans but it is treated as virtually synonymous. It isn’t.
The easiest possible way to read this is to simply substitute “bullied” for “gender dysphoric”, and the underlying dynamic is clear.
The “explosion” is just re-classifying the ordinary 3-5% of children who are gay, and bullied for being gender atypical as “trans” (DSM definition of trans: gender atypical behavior). And then torturing them.
The irony is that the population which is suppose to be helped is precisely the one which is ignored, and the one which is should be supported is crucified.
the gender biz has to label everyone getting gender care as "dysphoric" because otherwise its simply a choice to ID as another gender. if its just a choice then theres no reason to allow men in womens spaces, football teams ect. but of course it is a choice for most . kids are told gender care will solve every problem. and when they take gender meds theyre celebrated. so of course a child will report positive results or stay with the program. i would argue reports from persons younger than 20 are meaningless. its no surprise a child who receives hormones at age 8 would still be taking them 4 years later. its only with puberty or perhaps independence from parents that the down sides of this "care" become more apparent
The two are probably synonymous in many cases, but not always. Late onset and/or masculine-looking men get gender dysphoria.
reading jamie reeds account, who was an intake manager at a gender clinic, many or most kids arrive at the clinics with issues that have nothing to do with gender dysphoria. but theyre given gender meds anyways. the meds are given to everyone after a rubber stamped brief psych eval that is defacto part of the clinic. after ppl take gender meds their dysphoria begins or worsens. by placing people on gender meds for literially every psych issue, the gender industry is manufacturing dysphoria. without this most grow out of dysphoria. but once they take then meds their dysphoria is locked in and becomes worse. i imagine most who report dysphoria are just lying on the form. theyve been told gender "care" helps and they will say anything to get the meds.
adult men with agp fetish know they arent women. but they get a variety of thrills by pretending they are. anyone whose fetish is larping as women shouldnt be counted as a person with dysphoria. most likely they dont have any dysphoria at all. im certain there are a handful of people who are dysphoric. its probably 1/1000 as whats reported. for those people they need psych care. not pushed into ideology only care that harms more than helps
https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids
I agree that dysphoria is being manufactured in kids (and adults).
My ex was late onset, masculine, and had gender dysphoria. Trust me, I observed it in excruciating detail. AGP is sexually motivated, but it's a paraphilia, not a fetish, and is more complicated than a fetish. They aren't synonymous. Anne Lawrence explains this well.
Blanchard observed and reported on AGP men's dysphoria when he coined the term. It's why he created the typology, because both groups had dysphoria and wanted surgery, but he thought only one of those groups would benefit.
I'm not saying this to defend these men; I divorced one. But we don't make any headway on slowing the contagion by creating two dimensional villains instead of trying to understand the complex mental state so it can be addressed.
That said, there are fetishistic cross dressers as well, which can occur without AGP. And there appear to be more types than Blanchard's two original cohorts now, even beyond the new cohort of young girls.
its a free country. ppl can belive and say anything they want. the science of gender is a circular self reporting issue. just becuase somethings on paper dosent mean its not fiction. whatever men say about agp is still just another story. those storys are more similar to the storys of drug addicts and alcoholics than anything; the high from agp is a similar. no these men dont suffer. thats just a story. or if they do suffer its due to issues that have nothing to do with gender. what im saying is gender is a proxy for psych issues. one that the pharmaceutical industry is getting rich from. the proof of rhis is that gender care doesnt work. amsterdam says those on this care do terrible long term. men who rob the rights of women, kids, gays and others via gender ideology are harming others. but they are less of a villian than the polciy makers who enable this fraud. ask any heroin addict of they would like to continue with their habbit. they would say yes. agp is not a choice. but a ma n going into womems restroom is. its the ultimate misogyny amd ultimately they are the ones doing it.
Say you have "gender dysphoria" and you are diagnosed with FeelingsCancer, which justifies ANY "medical" procedures, including Mengelish experiments and unlimited cosmetic surgeries on taxpayers & health insurance premiums' dime.
Íris, what you say is very precise in a strange way: there is a cluster of syndromes, let’s call them “body dysphorias”, of which transsexuality is a variation. They are also called “body integrity identify disorders”, similar in a strange way to extreme prosapagnosia or “face blindness”.
All of them involve higher mental systems not recognizing the embodied self as the seen and felt body.
Trans wishes amputations of gonads or genitals. Some forms want amputation of limbs “to feel whole”, others enforce suicidal starvation to appear normal, or endless plastic surgery, or growing gigantic musculature to appear normal. It’s a hallucinatory experience in a degree, I have the large body version - my 19” biceps from a lifetime of exercise appear annoyingly small; and psychedelically change size if I’m near a large bodybuilder.
They all end in “surgery or suicide” to forestall unhappiness (I’ve learned to control the panic sensation of shrinking).
One day the connections between seemingly unrelated syndromes will be collected, understood and mitigated. Meanwhile we torture gay kids/.
Wasn't the original 2014 Dutch study funded by a Dutch pharmaceuticals company that manufactured Gonadatrophin inhibitors (like Lupron), thus the funding of this word salad must be revealed.
I've been adjacent to this movement since 1992, when I found my then-husband's 3 large format cross-dressing diaries. The patients are running the show, redefining every term; "transsexual" became "trans gender" and "sex change" (sic-there is no such thing as changing one's sex) became "transition." The PhD psychologist who diagnosed him "in the initial appointment," in 1993 was following, not leading. The other leader of this movement is Hollywood, going way back to Myra Breckenridge, through to Girl, Interrupted. (or was it Boy?)
If women like me had been allowed to have our say and tell these malpractice doctors that the patients they make glitter promises will actually never be accepted as their "chosen" sex, it would have helped work out a path towards fixing the body dissociation with a sexual fixation. That is what it is. Dr. Stephen B. Levine's words on institutional capture and WPATH as cult:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FENgXNaldnA&t=258s
This is such and disturbing whistleblowing account of what's going on in "gender" clinics. Jamie Reed worked for 4 years at The Washington University School of Medicine Division of Infectious Diseases: "How little patients understood what they were getting into was illustrated by a call we received at the center in 2020 from a 17-year-old biological female patient on testosterone. She said she was bleeding from the vagina. In less than an hour she had soaked through an extra heavy pad, her jeans, and a towel she had wrapped around her waist. The nurse at the center told her to go to the ER right away. This girl had had intercourse, and because testosterone thins the vaginal tissues, her vaginal canal had ripped open. She had to be sedated and given surgery to repair the damage. She wasn’t the only vaginal laceration case we heard about. Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and grows into what looks like a microphallus, or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged clitoris now extended below her vulva, and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female. At the end of the call I thought to myself, “Wow, we hurt this kid.”
https://open.substack.com/pub/bariweiss/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids?r=h9qg8&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
"...fewer patients are opting to remove gonads (ovaries and testes)"
Stories from Buck Angel and others suggest that cross-sex hormones end up damaging the sex organs so that they need removed later regardless of the patient's plans. This should be a part of the decision to get blockers and hormones, as kids who hope to keep their organs for whatever reason may not be getting what they bargained for.
"More than three-quarters (77%) of late-presenting “potentially eligible” females started puberty blockers at the Amsterdam clinic, compared to slightly more than half (53%) of the late-presenting males... The authors note this marked gap between females and males starting puberty blockers... is remarkable.”
Considering that parents heavily influence whether or not children arrive at these clinics and what treatment they pursue, it's worth wondering if parental fears about girls and puberty are a factor. Parents have long experienced more anxiety about their daughters' puberty than about their sons'.
Unlike male puberty, female puberty brings sexual objectification from adult men and boys, earlier onset of sexual interest, and the possibility of pregnancy.
I don't wish this thought I have onto anyone, but I've got a gut feeling that those children and young adults who submit to being gender guinea pigs won't live a very long life. There are no long-term studies of the effects of doing all this surgery and taking life-long hormones like this, but it seems that despite having to take hormones the rest of their lives, there's no going back to pre-hormone health should they wish to discontinue hormones and/or detransition.
I still recall when a study came out in the early 2000s that found that hormones that menopausal and post-menopausal women were taking were so dangerous that all the women taking them were told to immediately go off them. These were hormones our mothers and sometimes grandmothers took and after years of taking them, only then was the harm found and reacted to. For many of the younger women who had taken the hormones for a shorter period of time, the damage wasn't permanent. From what I read regarding the gender hormones, much of the damage is permanent.
I find that the most misleading claim is about patients who sought evaluations before age 10.
Tell me again about the 7-year-old who took the bus by themself to seek counseling about their gender dysphoria?