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Frederick R Prete's avatar

Thank you for this very informative essay. In principle, I agree with you. However, with all due respect, I think that many of the assertions are too simplistic (and some inaccurate) to move the conversation along. That's much of the problem with the ongoing debate. For instance, "eyes are specialized tissues that produce sight" is not sufficiently nuanced to make the point that sight is an emergent property of an intact functioning brain (eyes don't ''produce" sight). And, reptiles DO have sex chromosomes. Likewise, drawing analogies to the genetics of other animals is beside the point... even though I've been teaching biology and physiology for decades, I've always wondered how precisely to define the sex of the hydrozoan Obelia, but that has nothing to do with the sex of my children. Similarly, the two species of rat about which you wrote apparently have 10 genes that function in gonadal differentiation. They're just not on a 'Y' chromosome. I would also like to point out that the issue about aneuploidies has been discussed ad infinitum (even I put in my 2 cents)...

"If Aneuploidies = Sexes, Then Two-Headed Turtles Aren’t Turtles"

https://everythingisbiology.substack.com/p/if-aneuploidies-sexes-then-two-headed

...and simply reiterating these explanations will not change people's points of view. None of the broader arguments will ever resolve until people on both sides openly recognize the ambiguities of the edge cases, and there are some. That's just biology. As I tell my students, life is full ambiguities… get over it. However — and I want to make this quite clear, as I did in the article cited above — the ambiguities do not mean that the basic categories are illegitimate (Homo sapiens have two sexes). It just means there are rare ambiguities. So, in short, until the discussion becomes more nuanced and biologically accurate, it will simply remain an ongoing back-and-forth. Thank you again for this very interesting read. As I said, I do agree with you in principle. Sincerely Frederick

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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

This is yet another unreasonably overly complicated view.

1) No one cares about other species. The debate about male and female is exclusively about human male and human female.

2) No one cares about the small number of exceptions. Yes, there are exceptions - but these are errors of development and construction. No one should confuse the categorization of male and female by these errors.

Chromosomes do set up the male and female categories.

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