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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

Just awful. The policy of the NCAA will again damage programs, coaches, and student athletes. Look at that San Jose State U volleyball mess from 2024: one coach was fired for demanding that the women's team have women, numerous actual women athletes were damaged, and SJSU team was allowed to progress to the top of the tournament. Luckily they lost. Most shockingly, this male was housed with a real woman on the team, and she was not told that he was a fake woman. What an egregious violation of her privacy AND SAFETY.

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Frau Katze's avatar

Genetic testing is only way to go. That will also pick up conditions like 5-ARD.

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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

That would stop travesties like the boxing in the last Olympics. How truly appalling that 2 genetic males were able to get the gold.

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Hippiesq's avatar

This is one reason why EyesOpen wrote the article she wrote about the necessity to have truthful birth certificates. We cannot rely upon documents as proof of facts when the facts are subject to change at someone's whim because that person doesn't like the facts!!

https://substack.com/@thetranstrain/p-157328866

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James L. Nuzzo's avatar

Thanks for discussing the new NCAA policy, Colin. That the policy still allows transgender athletes to Practice with the team consistent with their gender identity reflects cowardice of officials to draw hard lines and just say “no.”

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GBM's avatar

As a citizen of Texas, I am not a fan of Ken Paxton but this lawsuit is spot on and is aimed at the deep dishonesty of the NAACP. The number of male athletes competing in female sports in the NCAA is minuscule but the principle and the effect on those involved is great. The leadership of the NCAA needs to be removed and replaced.

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Frau Katze's avatar

There’s not many of them but they often win prizes.

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Sarah Verkuil Turner's avatar

So disappointing, but not surprising. I think it will be extremely difficult to regulate birth certificate changes, as I guess that this is managed by states.

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TrackerNeil's avatar

Yes, even though Congress might be able address some of this, but I think state legislatures are the best targets for activism. That would surely provoke litigation, but...well, the Skrmetti ruling will give us a read on just how likely that litigation will be to succeed.

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Leslie MacMillan's avatar

Just in case anyone brings up complete androgen insensitivity disorder, this will not be an issue with doing tests for Barr bodies or an SRY gene. These individuals are XY (and so are Barr-body negative and SRY positive) but don't masculinize in utero or at puberty and so can compete as women. They look like women, too, even in locker rooms, which helps with avoiding stigma or nosy questions. The condition, while rare, is well-known in competitive athletics, is easily diagnosed once you think of it, and granting the athlete a waver is pretty straightforward.

The other consideration is that they will have male levels of testosterone which will ring alarm bells in the anti-doping tests. But it is biologically inactive and again, the anti-doping regime knows about CAIS and will not DQ the athlete.

Relying on birth-certificate sex is a cynical, deliberate attempt to thwart the executive order. I would cut off the NCAA's federal funding just because they didn't hew to the definition of sex in the EO. That tells you they were trying to undermine the law.

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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

And that leads to the question "Why is the NCAA trying to 'thwart the executive order'. What is the agenda of NCAA?" This whole "male on the female team" is very destructive to the actual women, to the competitors, and to fairness in the abstract.

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Ute Heggen's avatar

Women and girls will have to sit down when the starter goes off, whenever a male is practicing, lurking, pretending, etc. I'm serious enough to be concerned for these confused boys, as the frequency of pornography exposure and past sexual abuse in males who ideate a female persona are relevant social histories. They may then go on to damaging hormones and surgeries with a high risk of incontinence. As well, gender critical therapists serving the detrans population are finding that underage drinking and marijuana addictions play a role in the confusion. Childhood is being hollowed out from the inside, especially by "woke" teachers who attended expensive colleges like Bard and Smith. Smith recently gave Rachel (formerly Richard) Levine an honorary degree. We have to start imposing language on the NCAA and schools the way they've been doing to us for more than a decade. Here's my lexicon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8M0YzE4MXY&list=PLOFlPPQm71IiX8NjEVo6jSIwL6IYAtey0

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