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The "trans" cult comes with a built-in reaction to any and all disagreement as "hate." Biology is hate. Parental concern is hate. Resistance to surgery is hate.

Any pushback, however logical, however well-intended, is "transphobia." Kids whose parents don't "affirm" their new "gender identities" are to be hated as "transphobes" and escaped, sometimes with the help of mesmerized state agencies who regard any and all claims of "trans" as legitimate.

Affirming agencies like WPATH are now embracing the "eunuch identity" as warmly as the two actual sexes, and acceptance of pedophilia is on the way.

We who believe in biology and who recognize the depravity of "trans" find ourselves in the uncomfortable company of bigots who oppose it for all the wrong reasons. And many medical and psychiatric professionals who ought to know better have accepted the "civil rights" view of "trans" instead of allowing themselves to see the sickness.

At least Goth produced some really great music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4Xu2mx66Cg; "trans" has produced nothing whatever of any value, unless you count the removal of some really shallow and stupid kids from the gene pool.

Paternal authority: I also remember 𝑀𝑦 𝑇ℎ𝑟𝑒𝑒 𝑆𝑜𝑛𝑠 with a tall widower dad played by Fred MacMurray whose rapport with his boys was anything but authoritative.

But distrust of authority is everywhere now, in the winter of the Fourth Turning. I fear Spring may never come again.

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It was interesting dealing with the culture of parental authority in the privileged town in which my kids grew up in the 1990s and 2000s.

Parents had too much $. Many parents were doing drugs. Birthday parties ended up being a completion to outdo the last one.

I told my kids one very simple truth "You are a homeless person living in my house by my good graces. As long as you understand that, we'll be good". It had an element of jest. My wife thought that was a bit brutal. Other parents raised their eyes when I told them.

My kids would also use the "but so and so gets to do" when I told them they couldn't do something. My response, "I call the parents and see whether they'll adopt you".

They at times would in jest say "I'm gonna call the police on you". I responded with "Just so you're clear, they take you away, not me".

I also cut off the competition on spending for birthdays and what clothes they could buy. My wife (I was married to a woman then) started having them complain about where she would buy clothes for them. I made it simple. We gave them a budget of $200 every six months for clothes and anything else. Everything else they need to pay for themselves. They could decide how they wanted to spend it. Their friend parents asked how I got away with that. I asked them why I couldn't.

I also didn't tell my kids they had to go to high school. I did say that if they wanted to drop out, they would need to get a job and pay me rent.

One teacher in my daughter's Junior High told her she should drop out of Spanish because she wasn't doing well. My daughter tried to use this as justification for her dropping Spanish. I hauled the teacher in front of the school principal. I told the principal that no teacher should ever be telling my kids whether they should take a class. The only thing they should be doing is working with me to help the kid succeed. The principal was on my side. The principal faced pressure from parents to make sure their kids got good grades. The principal and I agree that was just setting kids up for failure. Grades in junior high don't count to anything in the long run. They just teach the kids how the world works before they get to high school and college. Now of course high school and colleges are trying to drop grades.

Same with paying for college. I told my kids I would pay for college if they maintained a "b" average. If they fell below a "b", they would owe me the money back. I also did not pay for an incidentals (e.g. drinking) at college. My kids got jobs to pay for.

It's not hard to have parental authority. Just have to do it. My kids today (in their 30s) view they were lucky and still are to have me as their dad. Even though I'm actively gay now.

I didn't have to deal with the trans issue. I don't think it would be as complicated as people seem to suggest. Its no different than dealing with drinking, dropping out, etc. If my kid comes to me and says they want to be the opposite sex and change their name and pronoun, I would respond with "Oh really? Tell me more about what's going on with you". I would also be clear on the implications of that both in their school, ability to participate in sports, go to the bathroom, date, have kids, etc. It will totally change their life. I would make sure they had all the facts.

I guess it was easy for me to have that perspective. I knew I was attracted to guys in my teens. I got married to a woman because I didn't want my sexuality to define how I lived my life. I'm actively gay today but not a fan of much of the gay culture. Too many gays tend to play victim to society. That doesn't help them.

The bottom line lesson for parents to teach their kids is to never play victim. They are not victims of peer pressure to conform to gender norms. They are not a victim of gender dysphoria they may have. The norms and gender dysphoria are real parts of living. You can decide how you want to respond to them. Choose wisely because it will have significant effects on the rest of your life.

Botton line, I don't have empathy for people who are trying to figure out how to "regain their parental authority". You never lost it. You just chose not to act on it.

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